Tank weight updates

Just wanted to give a quick update on the status of the “Tank DPS “weights.

I do in fact have a working Paladin and Warrior model to calculate the weights for these two jobs. This does in fact mean I do have their weights, but not entirely. I’m still, however, in the process of creating one for the Dark Knight and has I have absolutely no clue about the Dark Knight and learning it from scratch essentially, it’s taking me a while. I’ve also been backtracked on other things in real life.

Anyway, as to why I don’t have Paladin and Warrior weights entirely is this; I don’t have a working Damage Formula which accurately represents the scaling of Strength for these jobs. I’m temporarily using the Model for the Dragoon, which, will give varying inconsistencies in the ratio between Determination and Critical Hit Rating, versus Strength.

Remember, stat-weights are not a direct measurement of DPS, but rather, calculated in proportion to an increase of DPS per point of Strength. So if there’s a difference in Strength Scaling per Job, whilst Determination remains the same per Job, then the ratio and the weights will be different.

Once I’ve gotten a Dark Knight model, I’ll have a think about whether or not to release them with a disclaimer that they’re not 100% accurate. Besides, the Scaling of Strength on the three Tanks will be altered in 3.2… So plenty time for me to level them up, if I can be bothered that is.

Tank weight updates

7 thoughts on “Tank weight updates

  1. Anonymous says:

    This is great, looking forward to the Dark Knight weights, on a side note what do you mean stats for 3.2 on STR for tanks are changing?


    1. Yes, that is precisely what I mean!

      The only coefficient which is different between all Jobs, is Strength. This is the only way I can think of them “Adjusting” their damage output, without specifically altering the Jobs skills.


  2. Anonymous says:

    This is great, looking forward to the Dark Knight weights, on a side note what do you mean stats for 3.2 on STR for tanks are changing?


  3. Just out of curiosity, when you do the drk model are you planning on factoring piety (more mp/min for DA/SE) and parry (Low Blow/ Reprisal procs) in the weighting? I know they’re both significantly lower values, but they do both offer dps boosts given same str & wd.


    1. They will not be factored. I could model them, but, especially parry, will have little to no impact on the overall DPS of the Job.

      And here’s the thing, how will you measure parry? Each boss has an Auto-Attack at a different rate and some bosses use magic and not physical, which means no parries.

      Impossible to model.


  4. Dank says:

    I personally do not mind not receiving extra over the top info like piety/parry weights, that’s just too much work but the standard str/ss/crit/det weights would be great, as I’ve said before as a DRK I can submit any data needed to help out, although being on different servers can maybe make it difficult.

    I also have a side question and personally I haven’t had a chance to test it out but does DET affect auto attack damage output for us still or not? I know SE’s wording was a bit strange and others have stated that it does but I’d like to know a concrete answer.


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